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Q&A with Author Carol Dunbar

The Net Beneath UsHe promised her he would never let go. She’s willing to risk everything to hold on.

In the aftermath of her husband’s logging accident, Elsa has more questions than answers about how to carry on while caring for their two small children in the unfinished house he was building for them in the woods of rural Wisconsin. To cope with the challenges of winter and the near-daily miscommunications from her in-laws, she forges her own relationship with the land, learning from and taking comfort in the trees her husband had so loved. If she wants to stay in their home, she must discover her own capabilities, and accept help from the people and places she least expects.

In her debut novel, Carol Dunbar draws from her own lived experiences, vividly describing the wonder and harshness of life off the grid. Told over the course of a year, The Net Beneath Us is a lyrical exploration of loss, marriage, parenthood, and self-reliance; a tale of how the natural world—without and within us—offers us healing, if we can learn where to look.

Read below to see Carol’s answers to some burning questions!


I understand that you were an actor for many years, doing live theatre and commercial work. What made you decide to give that all that up and move off the grid?

It took me a long time to understand that I was a storyteller working in the wrong medium. When I did, it was difficult to walk away. Theatre will always be my first love, and like a relationship that you know is bad for you, but you just can’t end it, I had a hard time walking away. When my husband found an ad for an off-grid homestead in the forest, I said yes. Everyone who knew me was surprised. My husband grew up in the country and is a woodworker who always wanted to build furniture from his own trees. I wanted to become a writer although I didn’t know anything about living this way. We arrived wearing our bug spray and city shoes with a 15-month-old daughter and an aging dog. We had no idea what we were in for.

Living off the grid has come to mean a lot of things. What exactly does it mean for you?

That’s a good question—my husband and I are not hiding from the FBI! Off grid means not connected to the power lines. We are independent when it comes to our heat, water, and electricity. We heat our home using wood that we split ourselves and we pump water from a well. Now, our home and my office are 100-percent powered by the sun, but when we first moved here, we ran diesel engines to generator our electricity. These are huge engines once used to supply back-up power on trains, and they are the same engines that I describe in my first novel, The Net Beneath Us.

Let’s talk about your first novel. What’s it about and how did you get the idea?

The Net Beneath Us is about a young family building their house off the grid in the woods of rural Wisconsin when a logging accident alters the course of their lives. My main character, Elsa, is determined to carry on while carrying for their two small kids in the unfinished house her husband was building for them. This is a house with no running water or split firewood for heat, and winter is coming, but she’s motivated to stay because of her regrets. This is a story for anybody who has loved somebody and lost somebody. It’s about how to make your way back from a dark place by staying open to the wonders of the natural world.

The idea of an unfinished house came from a mysterious photo. It’s a picture of the house where I now live—but with a second story partially constructed. You can see the two-by-fours and the roof and there’s snow on the ground. But I live in this house, and we have no second story. So, I wondered, why someone would do that? Start building, get that far, and then take it down?

On your website, you also mention a real-life accident that served as a springboard for this novel. When did that happen?

The real-life accident happened four years after we moved here. Our furniture business was in full swing—my husband did the building, and I did the finish work. His table saw jumped back, and he had to take a year off to heal his hand. As difficult as that time was, one thing we were always aware of was that it could have been so much worse. We lost the income from our business, but I was able to get a temporary job in town. Our kids were ages two and five, it was fall, and I didn’t know how to split firewood. That was when I started writing this novel.

So, you followed the adage, “Write what you know?”

I did grab the low-hanging fruit of where I was at. A novel is, in many ways, a time capsule of life and place. I’m glad I wrote when my kids were young because you forget about things that you think you’ll always remember. But I didn’t really understand my main character until I flipped that adage around and wrote about what I didn’t know. Like me, my main character Elsa isn’t from the Midwest and didn’t grow up in the country. This novel took me more than ten years to write, so now, I’m very comfortable with living this way. But when I wrote from that place of not knowing, and showed the transformation, that’s when my story really took off.

How did you celebrate when you learned you were going to be a published author?

I live an hour away from a decent bottle of wine, so when my agent first started shopping around the manuscript, I bought a good bottle of champagne and tucked it in the back of the fridge. Because of the pandemic, that bottle sat in my fridge for a long time. My husband was like, “Um, can we open this?” And I was like, “No, that’s for when I get my book deal!” And you know, he left that bottle alone. He believed and my agent believed, and then one day we did pop that cork, and I don’t remember how it tasted, but it was wonderful to be able to share it with our kids—we let them have a taste because this book has been a part of their lives since they were very young.

What food or drink pairs best with your book?

A cup of hot tea with honey. Tea is what you drink when you’ve had a rough go of it, when you don’t know what to do next. It takes time to prepare, and that process can be centering, it calms you down.

Who – any time or place in the world – would you just love to have read your book?

Kim Kardashian. I would just be so interested to know what she or her sisters would think of living this way—of splitting firewood, of co-existing with wild critters.

On a more serious note, Cheryl Strayed. She’s a writer who I’ve long admired and she’s from this region and also writes about grief. I’d love to share with her what I’ve learned about the trees because I think she would get it.


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Excerpt Reveal: The Net Beneath Us by Carol Dunbar

The Net Beneath UsIn her debut novel, Carol Dunbar draws from her own lived experiences, vividly describing the wonder and harshness of life off the grid. Told over the course of a year, The Net Beneath Us is a lyrical exploration of loss, marriage, parenthood, and self-reliance; a tale of how the natural world—without and within us—offers us healing, if we can learn where to look.

He promised her he would never let go. She’s willing to risk everything to hold on.

In the aftermath of her husband’s logging accident, Elsa has more questions than answers about how to carry on while caring for their two small children in the unfinished house he was building for them in the woods of rural Wisconsin. To cope with the challenges of winter and the near-daily miscommunications from her in-laws, she forges her own relationship with the land, learning from and taking comfort in the trees her husband had so loved. If she wants to stay in their home, she must discover her own capabilities, and accept help from the people and places she least expects.

The Net Beneath Us will be available on September 13th, 2022. Please enjoy the following excerpt!


CHAPTER ONE

Elsa Arnasson was making dirt. Wearing their son in a backpack carrier, with her long Nordic hair caught up loose and haphazard at her neck, she carried the empty compost container and walked up the hill away from the garden, crossing the field that was their front lawn and swinging her arms, because life in the country didn’t mean you had to be content with the dirt you got. Nope. You could follow a recipe to make better dirt. New and improved dirt, because, she had discovered, everything about living in the country was about following a recipe.

Already she had made Christmas tree ornaments, vegetarian casseroles, and dyes made from onion skins and beets to color her own Easter eggs. That morning she’d made pancakes served with the wild blueberries she’d picked that summer by hand—berries so small they resembled capers, the mosquitoes so bad she thought she’d go mad. But she was starting to get the hang of it, life in the country, her body always in motion. And the recipe for dirt was simple: one shady patch of earth, a bushel of leaves, and scraps from your kitchen. Layer, water, repeat. She’d read that nearly a quarter of all household garbage could be used for compost, and now it was working, their first batch of topsoil, what gardeners called black gold, and she could turn it and touch it and crumble the dirt between her own two hands.

“We’ll grow carrots and potatoes and mushrooms,” she said to Finn as she went inside, everything a “we” with babies because experts agreed—explaining things helped them develop language skills. Their daughter in first grade could already read. Hester had asked for pancakes that morning and Elsa had made them—with whole wheat flour and yoghurt she’d cultured from raw milk. She’d made yoghurt! Her eyes adjusted to the dimness of the house they were building into the side of a hill—what she thought of with some affection as their cave

“Squash and corn and pun’kins.” She imitated a country twang, jerked her chin with a funky rocking motion, the baby riding along as she washed her hands at the kitchen sink. The water came not from the antique spigot but from the blue water jugs lining her countertop. And she’d never imagined it would take this long to build a house—they’d been living this way four years! But a person could get used to anything, she’d told Silas that morning, washing her hands in the pan of warm water she kept in the kitchen sink. She’d turned to him with a burst of affection.

He’d been sitting there with their two children, Silas, his back to her in a wooden chair, the sleeves of his plaid flannel rolled up. The muscles of his forearms tanned and strong as he tossed their daughter into the air. Hester’s hair flew out like spokes around the sun and Finn banged away on his high chair tray. It was the picture of everything she’d always wanted—noise, color, mess. And love. Elsa could feel the love beaming out from every face.

It was never her dream to live this way—independent, not connected to the grid. She didn’t grow up in the country, didn’t grow up anywhere, and would never think of herself as a country woman even now. Before moving out here with Silas she hardly knew how to make her own toast let alone yoghurt, and gardening was something migrant workers did in a field. “We have a guy for that,” her father always said. But Elsa met Silas during a time in her life when she needed something more to believe in, and Silas had ideals big enough for them both.

Drying her hands, she hefted up the laundry basket with its wet clothes and headed back outside.

In her tall brown boots she crossed the porch into the sun and squinted, stopping to adjust to the bright outdoors. A breeze blew down leaves in a dry gold rain. Finn in his backpack tugged at her hair, just the two of them in a clearing on a warm fall day. Leaves cartwheeled past her feet, past the fire pit Silas dug for them and the folding chairs he put out within hearing distance of the baby monitor, and past the spot where they’d spent two summers camping in a trailer. Silas, so respectful of the money she’d given to invest in their land—the last of her mother’s inheritance, what she thought of as Winnie’s legacy—he did everything the right way and he did it himself, the permits and digging, the gravel and concrete, septic tanks and inverters with wiring and insulation and the trees he felled and peeled by hand. Why buy new fixtures made in China from plastic when you can go to an auction fifty miles away and buy solid brass for three bucks? Why spend six gallons of water per flush when you can incinerate and compost the ashes? Why eat meat when there are so many different kinds of legumes? Why indeed. She never imagined it would take this long, thought they’d have the house finished before Finn was born. It was such a relief to finally move in, but the house was only a basement with cold cinder-block walls and windowless rooms. She’d opened boxes of cookware and dishes, the silver chest and wedding china from her grandmother, and she didn’t know what to do with these things, her old life so different from how she lived now—surrounded by mortar and nail guns, chain saws and mauls, the spiders and snakes winding through the grass.

But for the first time in her life, she was starting to feel it: that she belonged. Not just because she’d made a family here, but because she felt it—a connection to something bigger than just herself, the rolling land, the rousing air.

It came out from the dark pines behind the garden: a puffball that floated in the breeze.

It came like the white fluff of a dandelion only larger, an airy jewel suspended in sunlight that seemed to glow although it was a hundred feet away. It moved on an invisible current and drifted through the trees, played peekaboo behind the boughs, bobbed in and out of shadow. It captured her full attention then because of how it crossed their field toward them, and then hovered, right in front of her, right at eye level—how friendly it seemed, interested, even! She wasn’t imagining it—Finn in the backpack gurgled and kicked his legs.

She opened to the moment, forgot about the laundry basket in her hands, the baby on her back, and the house they were building. She forgot about everything and watched this puffball as a buzzing sensation moved through her, small at first, and then rising to fill her entire being, her whole body filled with a sense of rightness, a sense of peace so strong, she couldn’t imagine feeling anything but good ever again. This beautiful day, this home they were building and the children they were raising, all of it exactly right, exactly as it should be. After getting so many things wrong, after losing her mom and leaving school and disappointing her dad, she was finally in the right place doing the right thing, and they would be okay.

She thought this, and the puffball whirled away, spinning off into the trees.

From out on the road came the honking of a car horn. It blasted through the trees as tires crunched along gravel, the horn blaring on and on, their driveway long and winding because Silas had wanted their house set way back from the road. Through the bare branches the sun flashed along the vehicle, and Elsa recognized the Jeep that belonged to Luvera Arnasson, Silas’s aunt who lived eight miles up the road. She and Ethan had practically raised her husband on their small dairy farm, they’d lived here all their lives— and Luvera with her country know-how and thirty years’ more life experience with everything would no doubt point out that she, Elsa, was doing something wrong.

But not even Luvera could get to her—everywhere under her skin still tingled and buzzed. Luvera turned the car around in the dirt lot with her window rolled down and her continuous honking, as if Elsa weren’t standing right there.

“There’s been an accident,” Luvera shouted, almost barking. “Ethan and Silas. We have to get to the logging site. Now.”

Her words had jagged edges, chaotic lines. Her hair tied back with bangs over her small, peering eyes.

“Elsa?” Luvera leaned forward. “Did you hear what I said? We have to go now. Get in the car.”

“Yes.” She looked around. This beautiful day, the house they were building. “I hear.” She pulled out the plastic legs on the backpack— what she thought of as landing gear—and set her son down. Worked her shoulders free from the straps and turned to Finnegan Arnasson, nine months old. An accident? she thought, kissing his feet. Did we have an oopsie-daisy accident? She couldn’t feel bad. Spilling a glass of milk at dinnertime was an accident, but nothing to get worked up over.

“I should get his diaper bag,” she said, lifting out Finn. “I should run up to the house.”

“Okay, fine. Leave him here.” Luvera unbuckled her seat belt and hustled out of the car. “Do what you need to do but hurry. I’ll get him buckled in.”

Luvera took her little boy. Even though she had no children of her own, Luvera had purchased a used car seat and installed it in her Jeep. She kept an antique high chair in her kitchen and a children’s Bible in the living room. She also canned her own jam and raised chickens and made her own soap from the goats she milked by hand.

“What are you still standing there for? Go go go!” she said. “And get enough diapers. We might be gone awhile.”

We might be gone awhile. Elsa folded up the phrase like she folded up the diapers and clothes. She packed a bag in the cool, quiet house, while her thoughts floated like the puffball in the breeze. There were no problems, nothing had weight. The logging site. An accident.

She thought about the last time Silas had an accident, the summer they were living in the trailer. He was working at the sawmill on their back forty. It was hot, the night air filled with heat lightning and fireflies. She’d made dinner over an open campfire but he never came, and after getting Hester to sleep, she went back there into the woods by herself.

It was hard to see, the air hazy, cobwebbed with dusk. She found him working late, taking apart the whole sawmill, humming to himself.

“What happened?” She tried to sound amused but was actually horrified by the sight of things, the splintered logs, the jagged teeth of a crooked blade. She expected there to be blood on his hands but he only took the thermos she brought him and grinned.

“I know it’s a mess,” he laughed. “Broke the welds and everything but it’s my fault, I was rushing.” The saw had kicked back and torqued the carriage out of alignment, causing a massive jam, wrecking the blade.

“What are you going to do?” she said.

And he told her, as if it were obvious, “Keep on keeping on.”

She came out of the house with the diaper bag on her shoulder, Luvera bent over in the back door of the car, the window rolled down, the engine still running.

“Luvera?”

“Oh, thank goodness.” She backed out, shut the car door.

“Are they okay?”

Luvera straightened. “It’s bad,” she said to Elsa, sending the words down like a hammer to the pearl of her day


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